Chapters 11, 12, 13, and 14
The Gilman football season chronicled in the book was interrupted by the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. These chapters ask the readers to consider their response to tragedy. We are offered Napoleon Sykes’ poem and story about his friend, the stories of the victims of September 11th and finally Ryan’s coach.
Maybe the thing that sticks out here is the phone calls from the airplanes and twin towers on September 11. As Joe puts it, “nobody was calling their broker.” They were calling family, the people who matter to them and they were saying, “I love you.”
DTD
Ask your parents how they respond to selfishness when they see it in the world? Are there things about their lives that are worse because of the selfish decisions others make? How should we, and you, respond?
Chapter 15
When I was about your age, I was at McDonald’s with a group of about 7 other high school boys. We were talking about girls and sports and we were using impressively foul language. I got up to refill my drink and saw a family sitting on the other side of the restaurant, and they looked at me with utter disgust. In that moment, I saw myself through someone else’s eyes and I was ashamed. I don’t think I’ll ever forget the way the mother and two little kids looked at me, and I certainly never wanted the way I conducted myself to cause someone to look at me that way again.
How do you think the coach at Poly Prep would feel about himself if he read this chapter?
Have there been times in your life when your actions, which seemed just fine, were shown to you in another light? How did that feel?
Chapter 16
This chapter focuses on purpose, and it reminds me of two poems: The preface to Leaves of Grass
This is what you shall do; Love the earth and sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown or to any man or number of men, go freely with powerful uneducated persons and with the young and with the mothers of families, read these leaves in the open air every season of every year of your life, re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency not only in its words but in the silent lines of its lips and face and between the lashes of your eyes and in every motion and joint of your body.
And
The Buried Life
But often, in the world's most crowded streets,
But often, in the din of strife,
There rises an unspeakable desire
After the knowledge of our buried life;
A thirst to spend our fire and restless force
In tracking out our true, original course;
Both poets concern themselves with the true nature of life. Both seem also to think that we need help discovering it. We work and work to achieve material success, but that isn’t what really matters. What matters is how we live our lives and the impact we have on others.
Joe cites “moments in America” as evidence that our culture has serious problems. How are these two issues connected, the troubling statistics and the purpose or cause Joe tries to help people find?
What kind of purpose do you have? What gets you up in the morning? What drives your decisions? If it’s personal achievement, is that enough?
Chapter 17
Homecoming! Look at Biff’s message to his team, “You can’t be the kind of young man I want you to be if you’re treating girls poorly, you’re sneaking drinks, and you’re messing around with drugs…Because when you do those things you are not thinking about anybody else. You’re not thinking about your parents and what they want for you. You’re not thinking about that girl and what her parents want for her…”(Marx, 133).
There’s a lot to that statement. His main point seems to be that selfishness or thoughtlessness are the roots of bad decisions. When you’re putting others first, he thinks, you are more likely to make choices that are beneficial to the world around you. Do you agree with this statement?
DTD What does it mean to be a gentleman? Why is it important to for a young man to act like a gentleman? Ladies, what kind of behavior do you expect from a young man? If girls withdrew their attention from young men who treat them poorly, would their behavior change?
And finally, really think about this: the Gilman football team uses the occasion of Homecoming to celebrate their mothers. Nobody gets anywhere alone. Think about a person who has sacrificed to help you achieve something in your life. Now sit down and write them a letter, don’t text, don’t email. Say thank you, and make it a habit.
Chapter 18
Think about how we define success as a culture. Do you tend to think of success as a function of wealth, or fame, or joy? Most of us have been taught that success has something to do with the amount of money in a bank account, but the book seems to advocate a different, more complicated, understanding of the concept.
Look at the impact the Joe has had on the city of Baltimore. If he dies penniless, and alone (not likely), would his life still be considered a success?
This chapter also contains an interesting discussion of justice. Look at how Joe defines it: relational, economic, and communal and think about your own understanding of the word. Is true justice something you see on a regular basis or is it more rare? What can you do to create justice in the world around you?
Chapter 20-21
No Regrets
The final chapters of the book deal with regret. Looking back over an experience and feeling regret is common and unpleasant, and the coaches want to make sure and underscore that for their players. Are they talking about winning and losing when they bring up regret? Why not?
You will notice that the outcome of an experience is much less significant—over time—than commitment to success and effort. If you go after something and do your absolute best, your memories are likely to be good ones.
Think about your approach to the coming school year. If you live it with so that you have no regrets about it, what kind of year will you have?
DTD
Talk to your parents about “do overs” they would like to have. Ask them about things in their life they would like a second chance at, and ask them about times in their life that they wouldn’t change.
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
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So, I recently got into the sport of archery and surprisingly within the first seven chapters made a connection. I noticed so far that for Joe, winning the game is NOT the goal of the game, instead the goal is to live your life and respect yourself and your own goals.
ReplyDeleteIn archery we all have this saying, 'Shoot not for gold, not to win, and not for yourself, shoot for experience.' I think this is a great philosophy and I really wish I saw it more often. I think that even today people get so wrapped up in the thrill of the game that they ignore all the good things in life like family, respect, and responsibility.
Hey Jessica,
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting. It's not surprising that your sport is the initial connection you made with the book. I bet when you read some more, you'll find that the lessons you are learning through archery apply to your daily life as well. If you think about the quote from your post, that is relevant to many areas, academically and socially. I am excited to hear what you think about the rest of the book.
Mr. Williams
So I recently finished the book about a week ago and took some time to really think about the life lessons and mind set of the book. I was surprised how Joe really hit home with many of my own mental obstacles, and even helped me. I think when I look at, for example, my archery coach, everybody has their own way of putting Joe’s philosophy into words. My coach told me what differs a great archer and a good archer is the ability to accept failure and move on. That also applies to life, as I’ve come to find out. All you can do is give you’re all, if it’s not enough, at least you know that was all you could have done.
ReplyDeleteOne thing I LOVED about this book was how emotionally realistic it was. I’ve read A LOT of books, very few bring me to tears and make me leap with joy. I LEARNED something too, a great philosophy to live by. Not even my parents can argue with that! My dad wants to read the book too, I’m really excited to hear his thoughts! Thanks for replying, looking forward to discussing this book in further detail!
When I was reading this book I really liked the peom "That Guy in the Glass". I like it because it stresses the importance of staying true to yourself. It seems to say that all of the praise and acceptance from everyone around you means nothing if you betrayed yourself along the way.
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I think all through life we all have regrets of every kind, and they often come to mind after nothing can be done about what we don't like that has happened. In my experience, regret does give very awful feelings and can often hold us back in appreciating what a gift life is. I really loved the piece of the quote about how as long as you gave it your all, there is no reason to be ashamed or to obsess about what has happened.No matter who says to you what's not good enough about you to them, as long as you consider what you've done the best you can do, you're the one living your life, not them and you determine what kind of negative weight you carry with you for life, or if you live life for each day spending your time here with thoughts of love and goals to go for, instead of overthinking what can never be changed.
ReplyDeleteI personally think that by saying "live your life with no regrets" nowdays just gives people the excuse to go out and do foolish things without thinking twice about the impact it will have on their future. Everyone has some form of regret, which is usually that happened from a negative situation. I want to take risks, but the right kind of risks. Not foolish, breaking the law risks, risks that will impact my future for the better.
ReplyDeleteThis next year will be my senior year, and I want to be a good role model for the incoming freshman, peers and myself the right way, in a postivie not negative way. If I can do that, I will not have regrets my senior year.
-Jackie Nelson
While reading this book I really valued how Joe worked so hard to keep the football team close. I think it’s so important for a coach to understand that a great team takes connection both on and off the field. When I played soccer I had a coach that was always keeping the team together. He hosted dinners at his house and when we went out of town for tournaments he got us all together for pizza and swimming. He also organized a team run every morning followed by a team breakfast. This coach really made every girl on the team feel like she was part of something bigger than herself. I have had coaches that seemed to only be concerned with the team during practices and games and coaches that never made any efforts to make our relationships strong. While they were still good coaches who understood the game and worked to improve our skills, they never built our team into a concrete unit on which we could always depend on. Joe understands football, he knows how to coach the team to victories, but the team’s relationship is always his first priority.
ReplyDeleteI think that living your life without any regrets really comes down to how you decide to perceive every situation. There's always going to be something that you're going to look back on and wish you had done differently but you have to make the choice to either dwell on it or accept it and move on. In my opinion, living your life without regrets means that you come to the understanding that the past is the past and you can't change what happens but you can change how you deal with it. To me, living with no regrets has always meant that I live my life to the best of my ability and understand that I can't change the past but I can change how I let it affect me.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jessica Piccone's idea that it's important to bond as a team and just as people. I don't think winning is important at all, I think it's nice to try but it's more important to feel good about just having the opportunity. People would never be happy if they went out of their house every day regretting every mistake they've made or every time they lost a game, or didn't get first place. I also think sometimes that this book contradicts itself. The main message Joe and the coaches premote is that it's not about winning or losing as along as everybody brings the best of their talent. Yet it's ironic that in the last game of the book against Mcdonough, their goal is to take back their "cup". I also think it's funny that Joe stressed the idea that material things shouldn't be the focus, however, the cup is a material thing, just something to think about.
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ReplyDeleteThe contradiction that Kayla spotted at the end of the novel was surprising to me. Before I read her comment, I didn't consider the goal of winning the cup back a contradiction to the themes of the novel. I understand it now, although I still acknowledge the success against McDonogh as an event aligning
ReplyDeletewith the morals of the story. The techniques incorporated into the Gilman football team involve playing with hard work, establishing brotherhood within the team - including times outside of the football field - and winning each game with teamwork, rather than with a single player's capabilities. On the other
hand, the McDonogh football team, although a worthy rival to Gilman, has no defined moral code. The cup may only be a material, but it is important to consider exactly what it took for Gilman to win the cup back. It took patience
during practice, extreme trust on behalf of all of the players, and the advice of the experienced coaches. I believe Gilman was simply attempting to overcome what the rival football teams represented, and in order to set an example of how creating true relationships got results in the long run, it was necessary for them to try and win the cup.
Even though there is a contradictory theme pointed out by Kayla, in some ways, it fits perfectly with the story. Even though the whole message of the book is about bonding and relationships, it's important for the team to have a goal as well so that not only will they strive to be the best they can be, them learning to make good relationships with each other, will make them appreciate the effort even more and make winning the cup back even more special.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the statement made in Chapter 17 on some levels. I do agree that if you think about other people you might be less likely to make a bad decision because you are thinking about what kind of consequences it will have on them but I feel that we ultimately have to think about ourselves. I don’t mean this in a selfish, it’s-all-about-me way. I just mean that we have to remember that although we don’t want to hurt the people around us we also can’t spend our entire lives striving only to make them happy. I, of course, want to make decisions that won’t hurt people around me and will make people proud of me but I first and foremost want to make decisions that will make me happy and make me proud of myself. After so long it gets old always doing what is expected of you and sometimes we feel like we have to go out on a limb and do something different. I don’t think we do this to hurt other people or to act like some rebellious hell raiser. I think we do this because we come to realize that this is our life, that we have to do it out of self-respect. I think we do this because we have a life-changing epiphany that the only person we really have to prove ourselves to is ourselves. That to me is liberating, the idea that in the end I only have to prove myself to me. I want my parents to be proud of me. I want to be the ideal role model for my four younger siblings but like the poem “That Guy in the Glass” all of that will mean nothing to me if I betray myself along the way. As my favorite Friends character, Phoebe, says, “I don’t want to be the reason why you’re unhappy and I really don’t want to be the reason why I’m unhappy.”
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jessica that when we make decisions and go out and do something different, we don't do it to hurt people, especially our parents. It's nice to do something differently and build up our own personalities by experiencing other and new things. It is good to do nice things for others and make sacrifices, but not so seriously that we would hurt ourselves and we should do what we want but not so extreme that we would hurt other people.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Jessica and Kayla on how Joe’s coaching style allowed him to take an interesting approach to team building. Thanks to the media and childhood sports, most of us have been exposed to bitter, unforgiving coaches who seem to do nothing but yell, and make no effort whatsoever to view their players as anything more than a piece of meat (that may be exaggerated, but you get the point). Anyways, what struck me was that Joe was almost the complete opposite. Sure, he got upset a couple of times, but was never out of control. Most of the time, he preached about how the boys were his family, and that his job as a coach was to do nothing but guide them and love them. Joe viewed his players not as players, but as students and as sons. This left room for the team to grow as a family, rather than just a group of boys who met everyday to play a sport. But here’s my question: is this truly realistic? As much as Joe’s approach is appealing, there has to be a reason why it is unusual and the exception.
ReplyDeleteI too have a story like the one told in the chapter 15 section. I would rather not tell the particulars of the story but, I was doing something that seemed perfectly fine in one second but in the next second I saw it through another’s eyes and was completely ashamed of myself. I am actually still ashamed of that event to this very day, and it happened clear back freshmen year. This event is forever burned into my memory, and it effects my discussion to act, or react in a situation extremely often. It was not a pleasant event, nor was the feelings afterwards, but I am truly glad I saw it in the different light. If I would not have, I may still be doing things like that event. It taught me the very useful concept of thinking about what I am going to do/say before I do. I believe that if the coach from Poly Prep were to read this chapter about his behavior he would be shocked and at first think it was a dramatization. However I believe he would continue to return to that night, that game, and someday realize how out of control and barbaric he had been acting. Upon realization of this he would most likely feel guilty or upset with himself because of his behavioral display.
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(To comment on the conversation Jessica, Kayla, and Monica are having about how Joe has a very interesting coaching style.) From my prospective it is the best way to coach any child anything. I am on a soccer team that has been together (most of us) for about 6 years. We love each other; they are my family away from home. It wasn't just the time together that helped us form this bond, but also the care and effort or coach Dave puts into the team as a whole. He goes above and beyond for us, as well as gives up better opportunities to stay with us and see us grow. While I read this book a lot of things Joe said reminded me of how my own coach acts. And personally I believe me as a player, and my team as a whole would not be as good as we are if it were not for the "family" bond we have. It truly does make it not only better for the athletic part, but I have learned to truly care about people around me. Joe gave a true gift to these boys by coaching them the way he did.
ReplyDeletei am almost done with the book...so far its a graet book. once i got this book in the mail and saw the cover i didnt think i would be very interested in...this book talks about joe ehrnman and keeping the team close that is mainly my favorite part of the book because itsshowing how he really cares about his team...
ReplyDeleteIn archery we have this kind of 'law' on how we treat each other. Archery, like many sports, is a learning sport. You can try to teach yourself, try to understand the mechanics of a bow but somewhere in between A and B you'll need another persons perspective. Another set of eyes.
ReplyDeleteJ.O.A.D stands for Junior Olympic Archer Development. The range where I shoot offers that. It wasn't until I showed up that the kids in that program were more unison. Being the 'new girl' is NEVER fun, but I swallowed my pride one day and made it my goal to meet and know every JOAD kid there. I started with the parents, then introduced myself to the kids. It worked great. By the end of the month I knew almost every kids’ background and story and was on friendly terms. I think my push to understand and LISTEN to the JOAD team helped make everyone closer somehow. There is a warm sense of community among the kids now. Everybody helps everybody. How often do you see a twelve year-old help out three other boys under ten and expect nothing in return? I’ve made some good friends too, some older and some younger, friends I can count on to cheer me up and help me out. It’s heart warming to not only know but feel the love and support of teammates that trust you and have empathy for your situations at home. Money is a huge soft-spot for many kids in archery. It’s not cheap. But then again we help each other out and teach others to set goals for themselves, it makes obstacles seem less impossible.
To comment on Monica's question I think that one of the reasons that Joe's coaching style doesn't seem realistic is that it greatly differs from society. Society tells us that we need to win and we need to be the best, Joe says that all we need to do is give the best that we can and that is good enough. Because Joe's ideas are so far from out society I think that people are scared to try them, they are scared to be seen as different.
ReplyDeleteI agree completely with something that Monica had said. I think the biggest thing that I got out of all the messages he puts out into the book is that the biggest mistake we can really make is not putting out all of our efforts. His coaching style is very unique because for him it wasn't whether they won or lost, because that was only a temporary glory or defeat, it was his belief in the impact of the outcome of playing on the team that mattered the most. He had said that a man given 2 talents utilizing 100 percent of those talents is better than a man with 10 talents using only 2 of them. It was only when the players were acting lazy and selfish towards their own defeat that he struggled with them. He wasn't angry because they were losing, he was angry because no one was being accountable for their part. His style is not only different, but essential because it goes beyond the surface level relationship of a win-lose stage of life, it follows through further into the lives of his players, and anyone trying to achieve anything for that matter what it means to give it your all.
ReplyDeleteContinuing on Rudi's response to the contradiction Kayla pointed out, I agree with Rudi that winning the cup is not conflicting with the themes in the novel. I had not even considered the point Rudi brought up, but it is completely valid. The Gilman football team's success against their rivals, the McDonogh team, is symbolic of a strong moral code overcoming a weak moral code. The Gilman boys put their blood sweat and tears into the game and were more than deserving of this victory. Their triump shows that with teamwork, "each there for the other," they can face whatever obstacle stands in their way (166).
ReplyDeleteKayla pointed out that the Gilman team's slogan for the last game was "Now Give Us Back Our Cup" but I think this just realistic. Any high school football team shouts phrases like this in order to pump up the players. Although these words may seem a bit ironic, they do not discount all honor, respect and love that the team stands for.
To what Kayla was saying, it does seem contradictory that they would put so much pressure on winning when the point of the whole coaching experience is to show love. But Alix is right when she says that even though the words seem ironic, it doesn't discount for the main message that the coaches, especially Joe, have been trying to get across. Considering the powerful response Joe has gotten across these boys overall, it is good to have a goal, but also, since these are teenage boys in a sport, winning should be a priority. It's just how they react to it that is important. Like Joe was talking about in the book, when the boys got really cocky and confident that they would win, and the score was really bad, you can't just assume things. You always have to give it your all which is what was put into the book.
ReplyDeleteI am not involved in any team sports, but I can understand how the novel has achieved so much attention. Football may be one of the most popular sports in the United States and there are many dedicated fans and players - however, I do not think this is the reason why "Season of Life" won the Pulitzer Prize. The concept of forming a communion with the people around you is a lesson you incorporate throughout life. This characteristic of the novel may be easily noticed by the readers, but this makes it all the more necessary to point out.
ReplyDeleteThe novel not only focuses on the Joe Ehrmann and the Gilman football players, but on the author itself, Jeffrey Marx. At the very end of the novel, the main event is the relationship Marx has with his father. Perhaps the most basic relationships people have are with their parents or guardians - the mother and the father are the first individuals we meet in life. Therefore, if a son has a weak relationship with his father, not only will he grow up viewing his father as a mystery, but he will have to learn how to form relationships with other men by himself.
Many aspects can go wrong in a relationship - for example, two people can stop talking to each other, or they may be associating with people for immoral reasons. In Marx's case, he and his father had very little communication. He had the option of ignoring his father and going through life without genuinely knowing him. However, spending time with the Gilman football players gave him the experience he required to form a communion with his father.
Americans today take relationships for granted. This book holds valuable examples of forming a real community with the people around you. The Gilman football players did not view each other superficially, as mere classmates. They each held a deep connection that allowed the team to function with harmony and win the cup.
An auhor can easily write about football. What makes Marx's writing distinct is that athleticism is not the main focus. The fact that he reveals values in a setting we would not expect to find them is important.
At work, school, and home, we need to consider the beauty of relationships. This book has given me the lesson of acknowledging an individual and treating them, put simply, like a human being - rather than with indifference. Many of our relationships happen only once in a lifetime.
I loved this book but I didn't make a connection until the 7th chapter because that's when I really got into it. I am Glad that Mountain Range chose this book for summer because it fits both Men and Women.It teaches us all that as a community we need to treat each other with love and respect.Thank you Mountain Range staff for teaching me that when your nice to people the world gets a little bit better.
ReplyDeleteWhen I first read this book I really didn’t know what to think. So just like any other high school student I let it sit in my mind for a while, well more like a month, while other things were going on. But the more time I spent thinking about it and trying to figure out what Joe’s message was, the more I began to understand and see how this advice could be used in everyday life. While at first I didn’t think that it had much value to my life and I questioned why we were even reading it I came to believe that it wasn’t a bunch of talk, it actually had true meaning to it. I saw how it could help boys I know, and it made me especially think of my brother and other males in my family. Overall I think that this book was a great book to help teach not only the male population of our school but as well as the females on how to act on who you are and not how you want society to view you as. But I have a question for my fellow classmates, do you guys believe that if there was a girl version/ girl program like the one Joe implemented for his football team it would reach more people?
ReplyDeleteWell I finished this book awhile ago but never had a chance to blog. I thought the novel was pretty good in the end. I'm not a big fan of sports, which I thought it was all about at first, but it reaches a level of passion for life in general which everyone can relate to. Joe is a perfect example of how one's life can be influenced in such a great way by a tragedy. This was my favorite message in the novel. Just because one's life seems to be going down a certain path doesn't mean it stays in that forward direction.
ReplyDeleteKierian, well of course it would. By introducing girls into the equation you are reaching out to a bigger audience of people. Everyone needs to mature into the adult world and Joe was simply helping boys out but I'm sure that he kept in mind that the same thing about girls. His ultimate goal was to help those in their "season of life." If there was a girl program more girls could relate to the novel.
ReplyDeleteI just read Rudi's comment and it opened up the idea of the "relationships" in the novel. The relationship Jeff shares with his team is powerful. Not only does it help shape the very core of his future but it also helps his other relationships. Rudi reminded me of the relationship he shares with his father in the start. It's weak and Jeff doesn't give much hint that it can last. Though this all switches as Jeff matures with the team. He finally starts to realize the mindset of those older than him and that helps him understand his father thus making their relationship stronger.
ReplyDeleteSpencer brings up a valid point that I believe is true. That if there was a girls program then the message would be spread to a wider variety of girls, although I believe that the message got through to the girls that have read this book. But this brings up another question that has got me thinking. Since Joe focused on boys to you think that the issue with girls acting like women is of the same importance, but less urgent then that of boys acting like men?
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ReplyDeleteLike Spencer I also read the book a while ago. While I was reading the book I was trying to think of how this related to my life. I used to play soccer and I had some good coaches but it wasn't my coaches that I thought of when I read this book, it was my brother's coaches. Maybe it is because my brother is a guy and this book focuses on how to be a man or maybe it is because like coach Erhmann's football team my brother's team is very competitive. I wish my brother had a coach like Mr. Erhmann because I thnk it would do my brother some good. His coach is really quite opposite of coach Erhmann because he does not care about how the boys feel towards eachother or what kind of young men boys should be. Frankly he cares more about winning. I have seen my brother's coach break some of the fundamental rules that Erhmann instills in his boys, like calling the boys girls when they show weakness and telling them to pony up and stop being babies. Reading this book really inspired me to take on the role that his coach doesn't fill: telling him it is ok to cry and showing him that it is good to tell someone you love them. I hope that even though have as great a coach as Erhmann he will still grow up to be a boy that Erhmann considers a man.
ReplyDeleteRudi make a interesting observation that the novel ends not with the Gilman victory, but rather Marx's relationship with his father. Throughout the entire novel, Marx stresses the necessity and value of relationships. Especially for boys, their relationship with their father is very important. Boys learn to become men not by constantly being lectured, but by have a strong role model to observe. The boys of the Gilman football team are the humble, respectful boys they are because they have Joe and Biff to mirror. Marx is continually reminded of his disconnected relationship with his father because most kids look to their fathers for example, but Marx did not have that close relationship. Towards the end of the novel, Marx stresses, "It was not that I felt we had a bad relationship..." (173). It is not enough to just have a relationship, we have to constantly work at them in order to benefit from them. When Marx looks back on some of his old friendships, he says that they just lost contact. Joe and Marx's relationship is so important and meaningful to both of them because they both worked at improving it. Thus, relationships are crucial in life and require effort.
ReplyDeleteTo continue on from the post on the poem, "The Guy in the Glass"...
ReplyDeleteIt seemed to me that the most intriguing part of the poem was not its message specifically, but instead the profound impact it had on the author and his life choices. It is rare to find such inspirtion as a child and to cherish it as he did.
I think that his respect for such advice shows how determined he was to live fully. Fully enough so that there would be no disappointment
in his reflection.
-Mackenzie Matt
While I was reading, I selected passages that I thougt held importance for the novel as a whole. One of these passages appeared while Joe was waiting in the hospital during the time of his brother's illness.
ReplyDeleteIt is a poem by Edwin Markham, which speaks on the subject of destiny and one's abiliity to help it along in a suitable direction.
Markham states that, "All we send into the lives of others, comes back into our own." (19). I thought that these lines were very universal. Each deed, be it out of kindness or spite, that we preform, seems to have a way of repaying us in some shape or form. Kindness is well recived and thus, gives out a kind reward. Be kind and we will be treated kindly.
-Mackenzie Matt
Like Kate said, Joe's method of coaching largely seems a mismatch when put into the context of an every day football team. Yet, like Rudi pointed out, football is simply the teaching ground Joe employs to get his message across. Marx does not want the reader to walk away with an appreciation for how Joe coaches football, but rather for how he uses something as common and relatable as football for a much larger purpose. Season of Life has impact because it takes Joe's philosophy on life- which would seem preachy and overbearing if set alone on paper- and places it within the approachable setting of a football field.
ReplyDeleteAbout the proper behavior of a young gentleman... I think it's really quite sad that you don't see it much anymore. Call me old-fashioned, but I like it when guys open doors and I like it when they pull out chairs. I love when people my age have manners at all, because I feel the meaning behind them has been lost to my generation, but I especially love when guys can say please and thank you and yes ma'am/sir and no ma'am/sir... Part of this is also because I'm partial to the country kind. I used to tell my friends that a guy who doesn't pay isn't necessarily bad, so long as he can find other things to do without utilizing money. Chivalry often appears to be a thing of the past, but I for one am all about a revival. I think that if girls didn't allow themselves to be sold so cheap, guys would be forced to recognize the need to pay more. Not literally, but they might realize that they need to treat girls properly and not as toys or property. Getting at girls has become a game or a sport. It shouldn't be like that. People should have genuine feelings for each other and they should respect each other because of those feelings. Without respect, a relationship is worthless and doomed to fail.
ReplyDeleteI was watching a movie once where a guy said he didn't regret any of the decisions he had made because if he had not made them then he would not be where he was today. He was happy with his life so obviously he had made the right decisions. I believe this is a true notion and whether you live your life or your school year without regrets you will be more likely to achieve the life you want. The decisions we make we can't get back so there is no use focusing on what could have happened. This year is an important year because we will be making decisions that will affect where we live for the next four years and can determine who we will become. Regardless of what we decide to do after highschool if we know that we will be happy then there will be no need to have regrets.
ReplyDeleteKierian, my dearly beloved mini-fro, asked about the effects of a girl version of Joe's program. I believe that a girl's program would have to be programmed a little bit differently. If you really think about it, a huge part of Joe's process is to get the guys to open up about their feelings. In all my 17 years, I have come to realize that girls share their feelings plenty. Whether it's bursting into tears in the bathrooms during passing periods or gossiping about which girls they do and don't like at lunch, girls are usually pretty open about their feelings, emotions, and opinions. While guys need to open up more, I think many teenage girls need to focus solely on the respectful side of things. We need to respect ourselves first and then we can learn to truly respect others.
ReplyDeleteI just read Emily's comment about regrets... I just had to throw in that the song "Red Ragtop" by Tim McGraw has been stuck in my mind... the storyline is a 20 year old guy goes out with an 18 year old girl. She gets pregnant, they get an abortion and the regret and shame they feel from it reveals to him that it was all make-believe. There's one line that really applies: "Well you do what you do and you pay for your sins and there's no such thing as what might have been. That's a waste of time. Drive you out of your mind." I always loved that line. I have had tons of family drama and all sorts of craziness like any other teenager, but I don't regret any of it because I'm happy with where I am now and where I'm going in life. That's all. :)
ReplyDeleteGoing back to Emily's comment about regrets I agree. Sometimes us, as humans, make mistakes.Those mistakes can affect our life, as well as many others. Although these mistakes may become brick walls in our path, or hidden trap doors that will catch us up in the future we should not allow them to stop us. If you are to sit around and wallow in the regret of a mistake you made you will never move forward. I feel you should hold your mistakes in the back burner of your mind; always there but not the most pressing issue. Mistakes allow us to learn, and shape who we become, for that fact alone we should never regret any action we preform.
ReplyDeleteThroughout Season of Life, Marx emphasizes on the idea of the journey into manhood and maturity. In today’s day and age men are built from the ground up on a foundation formed with skewed and often times misled connotations of what masculinity is all about. Society has built these ‘machines’, morphing them into the ruff and rugged brutes that we as a population have come to idolize. Men do not cry, they do not show emotion, and they do not feel. Masculinity is fundamentally based off of athletic ability, sexual conquest, and economic success. Rooted within one of the most violent sports, Marx breaks away from societal norms and concludes that ruff and ruthless are not what makes a boy a man, but the love and passion that they exude in life and for others, that is what makes a man. In our generation I believe that young men in general are so caught up in the connotation of being a ‘manly man’ that they forget what the true meaning is. They are fed false information and ideas that the more barbaric and tough a boy is, the more of a man he becomes. We aren’t building men for the next generation, we are simply creating machines.
ReplyDelete“Live life with no regrets” is cliché, and yet everybody seems to be drawn to the saying and in turn live vicariously through the message it depicts. In my opinion, you don’t want to have to regret something. Life is fast passed and the world won’t wait for you to wish you had done something differently. I believe that a person finds him or her self by having faith and making choices for themselves, sure the risk is big and sometimes what is expected to happen doesn’t. Yet taking a chance and going into a situation blind makes a person an individual, the regret of not trying something is too heavy of a burden, and what could have been is too haunting.
ReplyDeleteWith the issue that Kierian brings up, I do not feel as if the issue is that of urgency. Within society, women are supposed to act a certain way and I feel as if most of the women agree with that connotation. For me I believe that a girl becomes a woman when she finds herself and her true beauty, both inside and out. I don’t think that women are as afraid or hesitant to show their true emotions because society hasn’t made them into these ‘things’ that are supposed to be tough and rugged and fearless at all time. I believe that in some ways, society can be easier on women and their growing up.
ReplyDeleteThat Guy in the Glass is a poem that every high school student should have to read. In our generation, we are so caught up in fitting in that we loose sight of who we really are, or once were inspired to be. It is easy to loose the goals and aspirations you once had to be treated as a person of importance. The fear of rejection can change a person, morphing an individual into a mold of what society expects and wants. I suppose that part of growing up is accepting whom you are and loving the person that you’ve become. Going along with the theme of becoming a man and the journey into adulthood, I believe that one major landmark on the path of growing up is being able to look into the mirror and liking what your reflection has to say about the person you’ve become.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Riley that society is much more accepting of emotional behavior in women than men. This story ultimately challenges that norm because it is Joe's belief that a man's inability to be sensitive and in touch with his emotions is what causes our biggest problems. Even the author has to adjust to these changes because he grew up in a relationship with his father where saying I love you wasn't something he heard and he didn't feel like it was okay to feel.
ReplyDeleteThis book defines what it means to be a gentleman on so many more levels than what we would normal classify one to be. After reading this book, I now look at boys who are true gentlemen as ones that offer support, love and courage that make for good relationships and communities. Biff names some of the problems in society that can happen when we don't have these kinds of men in the world saying that "greed happens. Businesses are run improperly. Young guys don't go to war to fight for freedom. They don't become policemen and firemen. Teams don't aspire to greatness. People don't bring all their talents. The quality of experience is eroded. Families break down. Husbands and wives go different ways. Children suffer" (198). So to me, it seems that a man needs to know when to be selfless and treat others with dignity and respect.
ReplyDeleteBut on the other hand, what this book doesn't touch base on is the other half of the world's population that holds just as much responsibility in the problems he talks about solving. Going back to Kierian's question, I think it would be equally as effective for girls. Boys aren't the only ones who have immaturity issues that take a toll on society.
In the chapter about homecoming, Biff mentions that he had never met anyone who said, "Boy, I'm really glad I got drunk, or did drugs, because I made a really good decision that I wouldn't have made without that" (133). I think this reflects a lot on decision making. Throughout the book, Joe is always talking about making decisions based on how they help other people, not yourself. Biff mentions that choosing drugs or alcohol is purely selfish and doesn't help others in any way. I agree with this, but I also think that such a decision would hurt others as well. In that case, they certainly wouldn't be living up to Joe's definition of being a man. It's just another way of trying to fit in with society, to fill a mold that otherwise wouldn't fit them.
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